@SafeToNet_FDN @AlecMuffett @The_AVPA @DCMS Thanks, that's helpful. Transcript for this one is - https://safetonetfoundation.org/2021/02/13/safeguarding-podcast-the-voco-manifesto-the-fox-in-the-hen-coop-with-antonia-bayly-of-the-dcms/ There's some other interesting looking ones there too